Grass Roots North Carolina offers a quick education on how a poll about concealed carry in restaurants and bars can be subtly rigged to produce the desired outcome.
Think about it. What image comes to mind if the question asked is phrased:
“[Do you agree/disagree with] permitting people to carry handguns in restaurants and bars?”
Howsomeever, the legislation presented is solely to allow LICENSED CONCEALED CARRY HANDGUN OWNERS TO CARRY in restaurants and bars. Big difference!
Pretty tricky, eh?
Philosophical differences aside, the choice of phrase can make quite a difference, certainly for the general public.
Text of Alert:
Elon Poll Flawed
A poll released last week by Elon University* purports to show little public support for expanding North Carolina’s existing concealed handgun law into parks and restaurants, as proposed under House Bill 111. However, the misleading and inaccurate phrasing of poll questions suggests that the researchers either haven’t read HB 111, or are woefully ignorant of North Carolina gun laws.
INACCURATELY PHRASED QUESTIONS:
“[Do you agree/disagree with] permitting people to carry handguns in restaurants and bars.”
* No pending bill would allow “people”-meaning anyone-to carry handguns in restaurants and bars. Rather, HB-111 is strictly limited to allowing concealed handgun permit holders to do so.
* Individuals covered by HB 111 have been verified by their sheriff as law-abiding citizens who have proven they are trained in the law and proficient with their weapons.
* These people have passed criminal background checks and had their fingerprints cleared by the FBI.
* The sheriff has verified they are not alcoholics or substance abusers, and in the case of veterans, were honorably discharged.
* This class of people – who number approximately 2% of North Carolinians – have proven, over the past 16 years, to be responsible, prudent, safe, and overwhelming law-abiding.
* A similar question skewed results on “people” carrying concealed handguns in parks when, in reality, the parks provision too would apply only to concealed handgun permit-holders.
* The question on restaurants omits at least two major qualifying conditions: That those carrying handguns are prohibited from consuming any alcohol, and that individual restaurants have the ability to ban the carry of handguns on their premises.
* Although the Elon poll found that 42.4% of respondents owned firearms, earlier polling of North Carolina residents found a far higher gun ownership rate of 56%,** suggesting a sampling bias against lawful gun ownership.
* John R. Lott, Jr. More Guns, Less Crime 3rd Edition. Chicago, The University of Chicago Press, 2010.
** Elon University poll available at:
Wow! Who woulda thunk?
Three years and 614 posts have passed since John Jacob H’s RKBA Commentary first rocketed into the Blogosphere!
Nearly 200,000 viewers have spent at least a few minutes ogling my vowels and consonants!
My most popular category? “Homepage” with almost 25,000 views! Who can guess what that means?
Nearly 25,000 spam comments have been blocked by Askimet. (Thanks WordPress! I would have quit many moons ago if I had to manually erase all that nonsense!)
Incredibly, at least two of my very own posts consistently make it into the audience favorites column.
Not to mention the recent Tom Selleck rant: HERE
Howsomeever, the posts I think most important are hardly noticed at all.
An S&W .45 ACP Moonclip revolver I briefly inspected over the weekend. Family legend claims it served in WWI. Note the notches on the handle(!?)
It is double action and stamped with some notation on the barrel “Smith & Wesson 1950 Barrel”. (Not the exact phrase)
So I throw the question out to the blogosphere: is this revolver as old as claimed? Is there a definitive test for age?
When you have a good rifleman you have a man who is confident of his ability to take care of himself; the quality pertains not to the rifle, but to himself; so you have a man who can quickly be turned to doing anything. He is a hunter and fighter; not a specialist who is at a loss when his specialty fails him. “-H.W. McBride “A Rifleman Went to War”
Cooper’s Principles of Practical Riflery:
Make first-round hits, at unknown distances, from improvised positions, with a cartridge appropriate to the purpose, under time pressure. –Colonel Jeff Cooper, Gun Guru
This week marks the end of the second season of TOP SHOT on the History Channel
A dirty shame the show must end. It has been a guilty pleasure for me from day one. CLICK LINK HERE
None of the usual race gun/tweaked target load ammo/five-finger tactical magazine swap IDPA/IPSC crap here.
Production guns, production ammo, off-the-shelf holsters and equipment. Don’t like the factory trigger on a Ruger 10/22? Too bad. Shoot it anyway.
Just respond to a simple question: can you hit six bottles from an upside down position after you’ve been spun around strapped to a giant plywood wheel? Because in the real world you may be just exactly that disoriented when you need to shoot your best. Yeah. How does that super-duper race gun holster work for you in that scenario?
Here it is, from no less than Leave It To Beaver: the forgotten episode. How quickly we forget “the past is another country; they do things differently there.”
Quick show of hands: how many people think this episode would ever be made in modern TV Land? It is almost poignant with its innocence and candor.
Briefly visit the America of yesteryear, before mandatory Government boondoggles of the Interstate Highway System, Public Education, Welfare State et.al. slowly consumed the vitality of a robust civilization.
Okay, I will come out of the closet and say I will never completely trust the ever popular Black Rifle. (Okay, modular component Sport Utility Rifle)
Not that there is anything wrong with people who love them and use them and cherish them. It is, after all, a free country!
But really, (A) the .223 cartridge can hardly compete with the powerhouse WWII 30.06, (remember? used in “the greatest battle implement ever made”?) and (B) maybe if you tweak the bits and pieces enough you can get some punch at 300 to 500 yards, (a distance vital in the mountains of Afghanistan, for example) and (C) then there is that business about “the forward assist”.
Seriously? A semi or full automatic rifle with a “forward assist” to chamber a round? How many rounds, how many times?
Why not just return to a single shot falling block design?
It would be much more reliable.
So, if push comes to shove, and I must forego my cherished bolt action .308 which will it be– AK47 or AR-15?
Supreme reliability combined with lousy accuracy or reasonable accuracy combined with failure to fire?
Forward assist or open beer? Do the arithmetic.
Beer wins hands down!
Anthony Martin offers an explanation for David Codrea’s hiatus in a special prayer request.
Apparently someone in the BATFE will be in court for high crimes and misdemeanors…..
Press Release from the Department Of Justice:
FROM: U.S. Dept. of Justice — Office of the Inspector General
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE — Wednesday, April 6, 2011
ATF AGENT INDICTED ON MULTIPLE FELONY CHARGES INVOLVING THEFT, FRAUD AND FIREARMS VIOLATIONS — Clifford Dean Posey Charged In Twenty Count Indictment
RICHMOND, VIRGINIA — A special agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco,
Firearms and Explosives has been charged in a twenty count indictment with a
variety of federal crimes that allegedly occurred in the course of his official
In an indictment returned under seal on Tuesday, the grand jury has charged
Clifford Dean Posey, 43, of Chesapeake, Va. with six counts of wire fraud, six
counts of embezzlement, two counts of possessing stolen firearms, four counts of
making false statements and two counts of money laundering. The indictment was
unsealed earlier today following Poseyâ€™s arrest and initial court appearance.
According to the indictment, as part of his duties Posey came into possession of
various items of property that were under his control, including but not limited
to firearms, cigarettes, tobacco products and United States currency. Beginning
no later than 2007, Posey began falsifying documents relating to firearms under
his custody and control in order to embezzle and convert them to his own use. On
one occasion included in the indictment, Posey advertised for sale firearms he
had come into custody of by virtue of his employment.
The indictment charges that during 2010 the defendant assisted in the
investigation of illegal cigarette trafficking. Posey obtained the access code
to a storage unit containing cigarettes intended for use in undercover tobacco
investigations. The defendant later contacted two potential targets of the
investigation and offered to undercut the negotiated ATF price, an action the
defendant was not authorized to take and one he failed to disclose to ATF, as
pursuant to protocol.
Beginning in July 2010 Posey was the lead case agent in an undercover tobacco
investigation and, in that capacity, was entrusted with the custody and control
of cigarettes and other tobacco products. The indictment alleges that on four
separate occasions from September 4 through November 19, 2010, Posey sold
cigarettes in his control by virtue of his employment,
retained the proceeds and failed to report the transactions to the ATF or any
other law enforcement officers working on the investigation.
The indictment also alleges that Posey falsely submitted receipt and release
reports to the ATF regarding firearms. The defendant claimed in the reports that
several stolen firearms were either released to the rightful owner or destroyed,
when in fact the defendant had taken possession of those firearms.
The investigation of the case was conducted by the Department of Justice Office
of the Inspector General, with the assistance of the ATF and the City of Hampton
Police Department. Assistant United States Attorney Joseph Mott is prosecuting
the case for the United States. This case is being handled by the United States
Attorneyâ€™s Office for the Western District of Virginia as a recusal matter
from the United States Attorneyâ€™s Office for the Eastern District of Virginia.
A Grand Jury indictment is only a charge and not evidence of guilt. The
defendant is entitled to a fair trial with the burden on the government to prove
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. ###
For proof of the idiocy of this whole Tom Selleck affair witness 7 year old Bill Mumy demonstrate EXCELLENT trigger discipline in a 1961 Mattel TOY COMMERCIAL CLICK LINK HERE
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Red Flag warning! Blue Bloods Gun Safety Amateur Hour!
David Codrea highlights an incident on the set of Tom Selleck’s television show “Blue Bloods” wherein Mr Selleck chastises a bit player for “waving a real gun around with his finger on the trigger”.
In news reports NRA Director Tom Selleck is cast heroically for his response to the extra’s faux pas.
Unfortunately, I cannot join the huzzah chorus in this instance.
Aside from the well established notion it is bad juju to publicly humiliate “the little people” the larger point should not be ignored as well: if you have joined a ship of fools about to wreck in the shoals it may make you feeeeel better to yell at the cabin boy but it sure will not keep the ship from capsizing!
As one message board commentator observed– it was the worst kind of Hollywood celebrity prima donna temper tantrum–all sound and fury with no productive outcome.
Yes, hardly a poster boy for on-screen displays of gun safety, hero Selleck has pretty big feet of clay. At the end of the day he is just one more Hollyweird drama queen who does not know squat about which he rants.
(Magnum PI –finger on the trigger TWICE in EVERY opening credit!)Finger on the trigger when he slaps in the magazine! Good thing the slide was not locked back!
(So Tom, is your finger on the trigger because your front sight is on the target?)
If the situation on his show has gotten to the point an extra in costume is “waving a gun around” many, many highly paid staffers failed in their appointed duties before the extra even auditioned for the role.
While Mr. Selleck was correct to react with alacrity, his fury more properly is, and ought to be, directed toward both the prop master and producer of his show.
This is a clear-cut case of Pot. Kettle. Black.