Happy New Year!

Skinny Moose explains Mincemeat Pie over on his blog:


Tantalizing Excerpt:

With plenty of venison in the house what to make for Christmas? I knew it would have to have venison in it so that’s when I decided to try to make a Mincemeat Pie for Christmas.
Never heard of mincemeat? Well it is an old pie that is older than our country, and probably was made by some of the first settlers to travel over from England.

Mincemeat developed as a way of preserving meat without salting or smoking some 500 years ago in England, where mince pies are still considered an essential accompaniment to holiday dinners just like the traditional plum pudding. This pie is a remnant of a medieval tradition of spiced meat dishes, usually minced mutton, that have survived because of its association with Christmas. This pies have also been known as Christmas Pies. Mince pie as part of the Christmas table had long been an English custom.

Chicago Tribune Reporter Field Dresses Deer

Credit where credit is due. Real hunting – two Chicago Tribune reporters take to the field and gun hunt their own venison.

They quickly understood the observation hunters have made for many years, to wit: Hunting is the most natural, organic, “sustainable” way to eat meat.

After several trips into the woods with no success, one reporter nevertheless volunteers to help skin, clean and butcher another hunter’s deer.

Yes, some would consider the video content graphic and may not wish to watch.

Youtube video description:

Chicago Tribune staff reporters Monica Eng and Barbara Brotman go on their first hunting expedition for deer, where they learn how to properly track, kill and butcher their prey. (Viewer discretion is advised)

Real Hunting: Wolves Kill Hounds

The Endangered Species Act strikes again!

It is bad enough when wolves take on rabbit beagles as documented here (CLICK LINK) but good grief HOUNDS?

You would think the match was a little more equal and the wolves would be a little more intimidated especially (again!) since they were more or less in the vicinity of an armed hunting party of humans.

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An Indecipherable Embarrassment of Regulatory Incoherence

Duplin County Regulation 2009

Duplin County Regulation 2009

Duplin County Regulation 2008

Duplin County Regulation 2008

Duplin County Regulation 2007
Duplin County Regulation 2007

Raleigh Constituent drops by with another editorial for the files:

Dear JohnJacob,

Now that Turkey Hunter Clyde Coffey’s life has been sacrificed on the altar of incomprehensible law enforcement policies I thought it might be useful to study the legal terrain Hunter “Joe Rifleman” must traverse in his adventures afield.

I quickly discovered this topic cannot be reasonably covered by an encyclopedia, let alone a book or a few articles. In fact, this maybe the first in an unending series of comments so difficult is it to plumb the depth of knavery and tomfoolery embedded in North Carolina hunting regulations.

The word “quagmire” only begins to describe the situation. The IRS code is an Elementary School “Dick and Jane” reading primer by comparison.

Below please find a brief (?!) overview of the topic.

To begin know it is said amongst the knowledgeable North Carolina is sprinkled with a number of “sweet spots” where a fellow can stand in an open field and box the compass in four opposite directions (North,East,South and West) for a few hundred yards and find himself under four conflicting sets of hunting regulations.

I know not personally if this is true, but a quick perusal of the hunting regulations certainly reveals it to be plausible.

You have your International Treaty Laws and regulations, your Federal laws and regulations, your State laws and regulations, your local (rural) county laws and regulations and your local (urban) city and town laws and regulations.

There are separate laws and regulations that govern conduct on State Game Lands and another separate set of laws and regulations that govern conduct on Military Reservations and yet another set of laws and regulations that essentially ban hunting from mining operations and facilities even if the owner were inclined to give permission.

“Working Agriculture Operations” (farms) have their own set of exemptions and rules.

Dare and Currituck Counties have their own countywide Game and Wildlife Commission.

Every year the Hunting Regulations Digest issued to hunters with their license purchase helpfully highlights regulation changes in red. Every year there are at least fifty changes, some quite significant.

In the August 2008 issue of North Carolina Sportsman Magazine (CLICK LINK HERE) author Craig Holt reported Judge Timothy Lee Paige ruled the definition of “take” was “unconstitutionally vague” when he dismissed a charge of “hunting over bait” against bear hunter Charles Smith

Craig Holt concluded his report with the comment if the ruling stands “WRC (Wildlife Resources Commission) will have to rewrite the bear baiting law for the third time in two years, then get new wording adopted by the General Assembly”.

In the 2007 archives of the North Carolina Bear Hunters Association website these comments are included in a discussion of Senate Bill 1246:


Senate Bill 1246

Regrettably, the NCBHA and the Wildlife Resources Commission (WRC) found themselves faced with vastly opposing viewpoints on how best to stop an unexplained flood of bear baiting enforcement citations.

The issue came close to ruining an effective working relationship that had spanned over 20 years.

At issue was a sudden and mysterious increase in bear baiting enforcement citations.

Hunters were charged without particular evidence or conditions that would normally cause an enforcement officer to write a citation.

There was remarkable evidence that suggested poor enforcement practice and possible violations by law enforcement personnel in District 2.

Hunters on several occasions met with WRC executive staff trying to find out what was behind the incidents.

In the face of incredible evidence, the WRC did not demand that the rash of enforcement abuse stop.

If anything, arrogance and intimidation, in addition to poor law enforcement was the response. Hunters loudly voiced concerns and the NCBHA leaned hard against the WRC.

All of the above examples do not even begin to describe the local regulations that attempt to outline geographical areas where certain practices are restricted.

They are couched in genuinely obscure and arcane language such as that found for Franklin County.

This is what the Franklin County paragraph says, I kid you not:

(It is illegal to) hunt game from the right-of-way of any public road in that part of the county bounded on the north beginning at the Tar River at the Granville County line east to US 1, then south along US 1 to the intersection of NC 56, then east along NC 56 to the intersection of US 401,then north along US 401 to the intersection of NC 39, then south along NC 39 to the intersection of NC 98, then east along NC 98 to the Nash County line.

So now you know, when it comes to hunting, local sovereignty still rules over both State and Federal Highways! And you thought all that stuff was forever relegated to the musty past with the Magna Carta and the Constitution!

Nope, when it comes to hunting the Bolshevik “greatest good for the greatest number” is unapologetically replaced with good old fashioned local sovereignty.

Anything goes if it cudgels an unenlightened activity like hunting into submission.

But I am not finished!

Here is one more really great example of indecipherable regulatory incoherence. The leading (current) contender for complete Alice-In-Wonderland-Mad-Hatter “the law is ours to know and yours to find out” bureaucracy is DUPLIN COUNTY.

On page 67 of the North Carolina Regulations Digest the Duplin County portion contains this instruction: For information concerning hunting from the roadway in Duplin County contact the County Attorney.

When you call Duplin County you will be told by staff they have a guideline sheet that must be A. Mailed or B. Faxed or C. Picked up in person. It CANNOT be emailed or posted on the Duplin County Website.

So there is a genuine mystery here. The mystery maybe related to the number of times the regulation for Duplin County has been changed in the last five years as demonstrated by these JPEG images.
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Some knowledgeable commentators have said Duplin County has two diametrically opposed and unenforceable statutes regulating the same activity.

If so, what could the County Attorney possibly include in a super secret guideline sheet to reconcile the conflict? And why would that guideline sheet be unavailable under the Public Documents Law?

Only Alice’s Mad Hatter knows for sure.

Here is the North Carolina General Statute for Duplin County.

Presumably it is the current “controlling legal authority” Or maybe not. (CLICK LINK HERE)

My suggestion is for all 500,000 hunters who have a copy of the North Carolina Regulations Digest call Duplin County Attorney Wendy Sivori at (910) 296-2233 and asked to be mailed their own personal copy of Duplin County’s Super Secret Hunting Guidelines so they will be in compliance and not be shot by some zealous Game Warden whose grasp of the law may be no better or worse than the people who create them.

Hunters are not second class citizens and should stop allowing government to treat them as though they were. If tourism dollars are welcome, so should recreational hunting dollars be welcome.

Clyde Coffey rest in peace. Apparently you were just in the wrong place at the wrong time: hunting on your own land, minding your own business. (CLICK LINK HERE)

Real Hunting: Game Wardens Gone Berserk

A good example of just how treacherous modern hunting has become. Regulation trumps common sense and everyone is guilty until proven innocent.

Sickening excerpt:

Elk hunters held at gunpoint: Local men were acting legally in Brinnon, say state and county law officials

By Barney Burke and Allison Arthur of The Leader

Two fathers and their sons went hunting in Brinnon on Saturday, but after legally downing an elk with a muzzleloading rifle, they found themselves staring down the barrels of guns pointed at them by uniformed officers of the Port Gamble S’Klallam Tribe.

“The whole thing was handled way wrong,” said Don Phipps, who shot the elk. “I’ve never had anyone pull a gun on me in my whole life. I didn’t understand it.”

Phipps, his son Danny, 22, and friend Adam Boling, 28, were handcuffed for two hours while bystanders watched from nearby U.S. Highway 101. Also with the three men was Boling’s 2-year-old son, Taylor.

All eventually were released at the scene and allowed to take the elk home for butchering, but the whole experience has left them wondering why the tribal police handled the incident in the way that they did.

According to Washington and Jefferson County law enforcement officials, Phipps was in full compliance with state and local laws on hunting and the use of firearms.


Real Hunting: Revenge Of Bullwinkle The Elk

Fair WARNING! This video is not for everyone. Some profanity. Grotesque imagery. But overall pretty funny.

For those interested what you see is actually partially digested grass, not Elk poop.

So it is not really as grotesque as you might initially think.

Pretty smelly and disgusting though.

Raleigh Constituent Investigates The Clyde Coffey Shooting


Our occasional correspondent from Raleigh, Raleigh Constituent,regales us with another telephone adventure.

For a link to the NC Wildlife Resources Page with .PDF Files of Wildlife Enforcement Officer Standards and Qualifications CLICK HERE

Posted with no additional comment:

Dear John Jacob,

As I have explained in the past I occasionally tangle with bureaucrats in government because my proximity here in Raleigh make them a somewhat irresistible target.

Once again a simple inquiry to what should have been a yes- or-no question became something of a quest as I bounced through various layers of the North Carolina Wildlife Resources Bureaucracy in my attempt to ascertain over the phone whether they were a CALEA (Commission for Accreditation of Law Enforcement Agencies) Certified Agency

I must tell you this telephone visit with the Wildlife Resources Commission is consistent with previous telephone visits in that the people in Wildlife Resources are universally helpful and cheerful and dare I say intelligent people who really do offer their best help to the public when they call about some hunting related issue. They all seem to have attended the same finishing school and unfailing treat me in the manner I like to think I treat phone inquiries to my phone number.

When asked to identify myself I said I preferred to remain a hunter and member of the public engaged in a routine inquiry. They accepted this without comment and continued to help me to the best of their ability. These folks could give lessons to other bureaucracies on how to deal with the public.

All that said, my initial question: Is NC Wildlife Enforcement a CALEA certified agency? drew a complete blank from the person/people on the other end. The Enforcement Division is not directly listed in the Raleigh Phone Book so I called a number which I judged most likely to be able to answer my question.

However, they did diligently connect me with a sworn LEO (a Lieutenant) who said he was familiar with CALEA, but to the best of his knowledge the agency was not so certified. He did mention all officers carried a book of some sort which outlined their duties and responsibilities. It was about the size of binder which could have revisions inserted as needed.

The Lieutenant also suggested I call his boss who oversaw all training related issues. In addition he gave me a phone number for the Public Liaison or Public Information Officer.

The Public Liaison, while not a sworn LEO, was a complete professional filled with a wealth of information about the Wildlife Enforcement Division. If I quote him correctly, he offered the following details about Wildlife LEOs:

There are approximately 300 applicants for about a dozen slots at a 19 week training Academy or “boot camp” of which only 10 successfully graduate.

In their 19 weeks of study all candidates undergo the NC State Standard Basic Law Enforcement Training after which they are sworn to enforce State and FEDERAL Violations. (Yeah, that is kind of an eyebrow raiser)

When I gently turned the conversation to the Clyde Coffey shooting, the formerly effusive Public Liaison immediately clammed up citing “an ongoing internal investigation”.

Since he could not talk to me, I asked if I could talk to him with some comments about the incident. He said he would take notes and pass them along.

I proffered the notion this incident was not local to Wilkes County, but was a statewide problem since hunters could no longer be confident about their interactions with Wildlife Enforcement. We may have crossed the Rubicon where the bond of trust between Investigators and the public has been seriously damaged.

Unlike Clyde Coffey I am not 76 years old, so if approached by a stranger in the woods, it will be my policy to immediately call 911 from a cell phone so some version of the incident will go on record in real time. I have the technology and know how to use it.

I further offered the observation the standard issue uniform of khaki shirt and forest green pants has always struck me as a recipe for disaster since I was advised in a hunter safety course Wildlife Officers are not required to wear blaze orange during deer season as they tramp through the woods.

Just one of several odd things about Wildlife Regulations long overdue for review.

Regardless of safe hunting practices and rigorous Law Enforcement training it may be time to overhaul protocols for public/LEO interactions.

In an era when a 6 foot 8 inch tall 300 pound North Carolina parolee can walk around Gaffney, South Carolina and kill 5 people in a week, no one should have to apologize for their caution when a man who claims to be Law Enforcement approaches you in the woods and declares his intention to disarm you.

Free Hunting Day In Tennessee

Here is a program to be emulated around the country.  Salute to the Tennessee Wildlife Management Folks!


FREE HUNTING DAY For Tennessee Residents SET FOR AUGUST 23

August 23, the opening day for the 2008 squirrel hunting season, has been established as a free hunting day in Tennessee, according to the Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency (TWRA).

This special day offers a chance to introduce a youth or an adult to squirrel hunting, the species which most of us started out hunting. It is also a good opportunity for those folks who have not tried hunting in a while to get back into the woods.

On free hunting day, all resident hunters are exempted from hunting licenses and WMA permits requirements. Not all WMA’s are open to hunting on August 23th. Be sure to check the information for particular WMA’s in the 2008 Tennessee Hunting and Trapping Guide.

In addition to squirrels, those species that have a year-round season will be open as well. The year-round species are: armadillo, beaver, coyote, English sparrow, groundhog, nutria, pigeon, starling, and striped skunk.

California AG Suing Gun Club Over Forest Fires

This topic has been beaten to death on this blog.

Grotesque Government Fire Suppression Polices over the past century by Smokey the Bear and his ilk have led to a astronomical fuel load in the nation’s forests which create monster forest fires that kill Bambi and Thumper and all the other little critters the loony left claims to adore.

Educational material posted in these links:




Or Here:

Nevertheless here is the latest double dealing, double crossing double talk from Government Kakistocrats:

Complete link:

Tantalizing Excerpt:

Attorney general suing igniters of 2006 fires
By Ryan Sabalow
Wednesday, August 20, 2008

Shooters at a gun range in Junction City and rock harvesters in Whitmore who unwittingly sparked separate fires in 2006 are being sued by the California attorney general for repayment of the state’s firefighting costs.

In one lawsuit, the state’s attorneys seek $6.36 million from the managers of the Weaverville Rod & Gun Club and the organizers of a National Rifle Association sanctioned shooting event in which a sparking bullet is alleged to have caused the 3,126-acre Junction Fire, which burned one home.

The suit, filed in late July in Trinity County Superior Court, alleges that the gun club was hosting a “service rifle shoot” on July 29, 2006, in which participants where firing assault weapons, including Ruger Mini 14s and Armalite AR-15s.